The clones are 2 bolt engine mount. Chimera Engineering CBR Engine swap kits would allow you to install a Honda NC51 (300cc) or Honda MC41(250cc) engine onto a 2014-2020 Honda Grom and 2019+ Honda Monkey! Anyway, as someone who has worked behind a parts counter, I've sworn off Chinese brands until they can get their shit together. Yes, but being that it is my side toy I didn't want to pay the extra cost. I've seen 80cc clones using a top end from an OHC 50cc engine with some weird-assed stroker crank setup. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all those who have owned, driven, raced, admired or had anything ever to do with a Honda Grom, Press J to jump to the feed. The swing arm and rear sets swap too. This page is dedicated to the Chinese TaoTao HellCat Raptor 125cc Grom Clone. Grom. The clones use a carb. © 2020, All Rights Reserved. The X-Pro 125 is quickly becoming a go-to favorite in the Honda Grom Clone world. So pretty much any horizontal pit bike engine will fit. Parts from one rarely bolt up to the other. If you're going to engine swap, the Chinese ones are fine. We recommend the CB300F harness because it requires the least amount of work to get it to function on the Grom chassis (due to the speedometer). Modification is required for the harness, so that it would cleaner and some wires will need to be extended/lengthen. The grom is also fuel injected not carbureted. I am highly considering to get an SSR Razkull alternative (they are all made by the same Chinese warehouse anyways) and swapping the engine for a 190cc. If the radiator is too small, you will run the risk of overheating. vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Don't think I would want to give up the FI. Cheap quality yes, but runs great and fun. Special Thanks to Dominic in TN for pointing this out! Very little noise would occur during acceleration or cruising. Might be a fun winter project? Same with handlebars, levers, etc. For the latest news, promotions, sales, and upcoming events! Tons of people in there that stunt/race. Along with I don't have many places around here to take it offroad or do hooligan shit with. I bet the Grom would be … NOTE: For all NC51 300cc engines before 2016, there is a CRANKSHAFT recall on them by Honda. It's not 100% complete, but I did ride the Tail of the Dragon with it!! And carry a passenger and still have some nut would be nice! This kit does NOT require any welding, but some modification is needed on the very bottom portion of the Monkey frame. I went through the same thing. If you decide to keep the Grom Speedometer, max RPM reading is 10k RPM and it doesn't have a coolant temp. Looking strikingly similar to the “OG” Grom, most would be hard pressed to tell the two apart at first glance. WARNING: Due to the short standard wheelbase of the Grom, the new swap will have the tendency to wheelie during initial acceleration, rapid low speed accelerations, or while changing gears. If you want reviews and people who have Grom clones that have done everything possible... check the ZS190 Swap Shop, ZS190 Swap Page, and other facebook groups. Good luck. I'd love to see it with more power, 2 stroke would be cool just for fun. This kit does NOT require any welding or major modifications to the chassis. Especially if you want to swap the engine to the Daytona Anima (pit bike racing engines). For plates and all. I actually rode one for my MSF course. 2) If you decide to run the Chimera Front Mount Radiator, trimming to the inner plastic shrouds are required to clear the width of the radiator. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Need something like a lever or a footpeg? It's a 2010 250 ninja with a worked 350cc Yamaha Banshee ATV engine. And as it is, the engine is rarely the part you'll have problems with. Enjoy the reliability of a water-cooled 250cc or 300cc Honda engine, with 6 speeds, and lots of power on your Honda Grom and Monkey! I imagine a larger injector. Edit: also, did you need the 190 conversion frame piece? You would need to add a piggyback fuel controller OR run a full standalone such as ARacer. 4x Chimera bolt-on engine mounting brackets NC51/MC41 engines, Chimera Front Mount Radiator for Honda Grom w/CBR engime swaps (+$149.99), Chimera Radiator Hose Kit for Front Mount Radiator (+$55.00), Chimera Race Header for Honda Grom w/Chimera CBR Engine Swap Mounts (+$225.00). You can end up shelling out $500+ to get the Dyno and PCV. For the best viewing experience please update your browser to, Honda Grom Forum : Honda Grom General Discussion, Show 50 post(s) from this thread on one page, The problem with Chinese clones is that you'll never find parts for them. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE Groms. But it is much easier to modify a carb'd engine. vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.vBulletin Security provided by JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. However, during deceleration in gear (engine braking), the noise would be much louder. WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm - -- Learn More. What a shame there isn't Grom sized bikes that are 150cc or 175cc. Did I want a grom? And what engine IS it a clone of? But man, $3200 for a bike I just want to trash around on is a little steep. Enjoy the reliability of a water-cooled 250cc or 300cc Honda engine, with 6 speeds, and lots of power on your Honda Grom and Monkey! Yeaaa! Just modify it for more flow. light. It’s reversible! And I don't know, winterizing my Ninja has made me want to play with something until the summer comes. Honda Grom Engine Swap. Slight cutting and grinding are required in order to clear the new engine. Other cost difference is the Grom is fuel injected. Any throttle body would work between the two models of engine. The engine mount kit includes everything needed to bolt-on a NC51 or MC41 engine onto a Grom chassis. Not to mention even if the engine is a 1:1 clone or the whole bike is a perfect 1:1 clone, the reason it’s cheaper is because they use really low quality materials. I bought a 125cc ice bear frueza fully complete from a local dealer for $1800. 3) The OEM ECU from the NC51 or MC41 engines will not work alone. Didn't run well at all with the stock one. OEM Honda Custom Extended Clutch Cable for CBR Swap to Grom. Donor parts that are needed (USER SOURCED, NOT INCLUDED WITH KIT): 1) The chain guide is made with bearings, therefore there’s direct bearing-to-chain contact. I live in a heavily populated city where I've only seen Groms sold used for$2900+. So wear/breakage is way more likely than a quality party. I might try for an z125 just because I enjoy the looks over the Grom. I got a tnt 135, saved almost a grand and couldn't be happier. If you’re purchasing a complete donor bike, you would want to take it to the dealer to perform the crankshaft recall before installing it onto the Grom. Engine parts they don't, but the clones (not counting SSR Razkull) use a pit bike engine. After having for 2 months it has a monthy battery drian went through 3 batteries so far also bolts and screws are loosing or falling off and brackets breaking, also the muffler plastic cover that screewed in fell off. Gearing change will be cheaper and more effective, why even think about swaps when you've yet to even ride it? Engine parts they don't, but the clones (not counting SSR Razkull) use a pit bike engine. It is definitely more reliable and start up in colder weather without issue. Typical harness modification is needed as well. So... Grom is a 3 bolt engine mount. If you go with Chimera Front Mount optional radiator, then you would need a radiator fan from one of these bikes: CBR250, CBR300, CB300, or Rebel 300. If you ever decide to put the original 125cc engine back on, you’re able to unbolt everything CBR related and reverse it! They are both "made" by the same company. Thank you for this! Motocheez gives his Honda Grom clone TaoTao Hellcat 125 a "big block" engine upgrade with a 190cc powerplant. Less than a 100 miles later I swapped a 190 motor, which was a dead simple bolt in. Here's what's involved in making the swap. So what is your thoughts, should I bother? Regardless of what harness you use, it would require all the supporting relays, sensors, and modification to the harness. People think they have such a high resell value it's crazy. So for under 2K, I got a nice little ride. The clones are 2 bolt engine mount. Chimera Engineering CBR Engine swap kits would allow you to install a Honda NC51 (300cc) or Honda MC41(250cc) engine onto a 2014-2020 Honda Grom and 2019+ Honda Monkey! 4) 2017+ Model Grom owners who wish to retain the stock led headlight will require to purchase Tripage headlight conversion sku TRIP-1001. And that's assuming you can get it sooner than 2-3 weeks while you wait for the state-side distributor to get it in off of back order. Shame they don't sell them online. lol. ARacer RC1 with AF1 option (RACE OPTION: Advance tuning features, full control of everything), ARacer RC Mini Plus 2 ECU with AF1 option (BEST OPTION: for price, tuning features, and user friendliness), Aracer RC Mini 4C (BASIC OPTION: for price, something that would work, and simple tuning). 100mph would be sweeeet! The CB300F speedometer is the same as the Grom unit, so it’s a direct-replacement, however it will display higher RPM reading (12k RPM) and it has a coolant temp light. I see it all the time with Chinese dirt bikes. It will be easier to sell A grom engine also than a Chinese one. Used most of the original cabling too, except for a new clutch cable that came with the motor. Did have to get a new exhaust. We highly recommend the following ECU. Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. We thought of many ways to correct this, however all of the method would result in a wearable item, which we didn’t want. So pretty much any horizontal pit bike engine will fit. Aftermarket performance crankshaft is also available to stroke the engine (details would be provided in the near future). I really wish I could get an SSR razkull or a TNT 135. If you have the CBR250/CBR300 harness, then you're require to run a CBR250 or CBR300 speedometer, which would require a custom mounting bracket. If you're not going to do that... then the Grom is a better choice. No need to get a Dyno tune or have to drop in an aftermarket ECU when you do things like bit bore kits or air intake mods. User Alert System provided by Similar to the Grom, the engine mount kit includes everything you need to bolt-on an NC51 or MC41 engine onto a Monkey chassis. This would produce a chain whirling noise as the chain rolls over the bearings. Overall, if you're going to mod the bike... no reason not to use a clone as a base. GROM: The engine mount kit includes everything needed to bolt-on a NC51 or MC41 engine … Yes, the engine is a Honda knockoff but it doesn't mean it's a 1:1 clone. Just imagine that piston inside being made of a lesser quality material, or the valves...yikes. Plastics from a Grom OG swaps on with no issues. Price ranges from $345 - $1617.87 depending on options selected. Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - If you decide to run your own radiator, then you would need to source something that could handle the cooling system of a 250cc or 300cc engine. With pit bikes, these horizontal engines that the clones use are based on the CRF50 mounting pattern (2 bolt and spacing). Please see the additional information below for details! Wiring was even plug n play. You might get lucky with something bolting up but you won't know unless you have it in your hands and can try it out. "But it's the same as a Honda hurrdurr" isn't true. -Honda NC51 or MC41 engines, commonly found on CBR250, CBR300, CB300, and Rebel 300. Chimera Engineering CBR Engine Swap Mounts Honda Grom, JT Sprockets Steel Rear Sprocket 520 Pitch Honda Grom CBR Swaps, Chimera Front Mount Radiator for Honda Grom with CBR Engine Swaps. So... Grom is a 3 bolt engine mount. Please review and read everything below carefully.

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